Yep, I'm in the freedom of choice camp. I don't want some beuracrat in government dictating what is "safe" enough for me to do. Lots of these people don't think you should be able to ride a motorcycle period. If you don't want to wear one fine, if you do fine, just don't try to force me into what you or the non-rideing public think is "safe enough" which ever side you might be on. Every time my sister in law hears about my wife and I rideing she tells my wife and all her relitives how insane it is, calls them murdercycles. She and I got into that discussion only once, I told her to lose about 100 pounds, eating all those donuts is insane Now she avoids me altogeather LOL
[QUOTE=rand;85528]ThatsWHY did the guy HAVE to -"hit his brakes" ? (Group ride,should be predetermined,everybody knows everybody,KNOWS HOW TO RIDE,KNOWS HOW TO RIDE IN A GROUP! ),and should have control of HIS BIKE ! QUOTE]
first of all yes I noticed I am replying to a older dead post, that was revived.
I was on a group ride recently, no one was given directions, & we all knew where we started, where we was stoppping to eat & get gas, & end location, but the road captain chose the route as he went, & communicated to a couple near what to do for blocking. total round trip was roughly 140 miles. it was announced 1 week prior, & 30 guys showed up to ride, & was done as they went, no planning or anything. just showed up, & ride to destination, the way they chose to travel, which was mostly backroads.
the road captain chose 75% back roads, all curvy, unknown, some even to me, & I thought I knew most around these parts, & several novice riders, 1 guy has been riding maybe 4 months, but hasn't even got 1000 miles under his belt, & his wife just got her bike, & if it wasnt acting up she would have been on the ride, & she has under 50 miles. I rode behind him & had told everyone to not crowd him, this was his first "long ride" as I pretty well knew I would be ok, & watched out for him, & he made plenty of mistakes, & every curve swung wide & couldn't keep it in his lane, plus pea gravel on roads made things "interesting" too.
the best thing to do if on a ride, talk to the guys, & gals, & see what their experience level is, & if they need help, watch out for them, & make others aware of them, those with experience (should) be ok. that can help keep everyone safe!
I'm in the camp for freedom of choice on whether to wear or not wear a helmet. My self , I never, repeat, never ride without wearing my full face helmet, I don't care if someone thinks its not "cool looking" or not. I began wearing one many years ago because it was required by the sanctioning organizations, both motorcycle and auto when I was racing a lot and I got to feeling naked without one. I became a believer big time when I was involved in a confrontation with two other bikes over real estate in a really rocky section of a cross country race, all I got was some scuff marks on my body and my full face helmet saved my face when it got planted in the rocks. The two novice heroes that were involved both had el cheapo plastic open face helmets and suffered broken teeth, and a broken nose and permanent disfigurement. Oh yeah, one of them received a severe concussion also. I also had an incident on a street bike caused by my own stupidity and ended up on the pavement. I'm alive today because of that helmet. I am not saying that a law that demands that every one has to wear a helmet should be the law, but I think from personal experience, you are stupid not to wear one even if the law doesn't require it where you are riding.
well said ,dave
In Florida it is 10G insurance, and 21 years old.
A British motorcycle racer once said to me as we watched a rider go pass without a helmet. He looked at my helmet then looked at me and said " I see you wear one, (long pause) you know you have to have something to put in it"
Hard to chime in on this one I love the choice but live in Canada where there is no choice......lucky for me....I was in a major head on bike accident in 08 and after departing hood and windshield of car I hit a telephone pole with my head as I flew into the ditch. Be it not for my helmet Id be dead, barely survived as it was and took a year of re hab and weeks before I could walk from the brain injury.
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