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  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by 38el View Post
    There was a 47 knuckle with a sidecar that sold yesterday for 30k.
    I didn't look that close but appeared mostly oem , and an older restoration.
    Looked like a good deal.
    If true, that is a good deal for someone. I have to keep reminding myself that had I been there bidding on it, it likely would have gone much higher. High enough that I'd have had to bail out.
    Seems like the winning bidders usually have the means to keep bidding until they win... I don't.

  2. #32

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    I know the owner of that 40 Crocker. Not sure why Mark decided to sell it because as you can see from the add he spent a lot of time and money to restore that bike and was years waiting on it to be finished. Hope it went big.


  3. #33
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    new britain pa

    Re: 2020 Vegas auctions

    Quote Originally Posted by dkgoz View Post
    I thought it was weird that the last lot from the Bulman collection, a '37 Knucklehead with sidecar, just kinda disappeared:

    They sold lot W83, an Indian Four, then the auctioneer announced that he didn't know where lot W84 was, so he skipped to next lot. They made it sound like they would find it and sell it later, but the lot list doesn't show any selling info.

    Anyone at the auction that knows what happened?

    If any auctioneer feels a lot will sell better later on in the day. He'll move it around. Switch things up a bit. Nothings written in stone as far as lot orders.
    Ps anybody know what they call an auctioneer in Italy?

  4. #34
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    Mar 2008
    Beautiful Northern NM

    Re: 2020 Vegas auctions

    Quote Originally Posted by rob View Post
    If any auctioneer feels a lot will sell better later on in the day. He'll move it around. Switch things up a bit. Nothings written in stone as far as lot orders.
    Ps anybody know what they call an auctioneer in Italy?
    Like an old Frenchman I knew used to say "in France zey call me the great artiste, in America zey call me Cocksuckuer"
    Friends help friends move,
    Real friends help friends move bodies!

  5. #35

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    Il banditore attira gli acquirenti come un pescatore che pesca i pesci

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    So much repop and chrome! Despite this statement "Perfect original unmolested VIN stamping 47-7632", the VIN is clearly not factory original, yet it sold for $46200!

    Wow . . .

  8. #38
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    Jan 2009

    Re: 2020 Vegas auctions

    Little out of the flow of things but do they ever have parts lots at auctions like these?

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    Anyone at the auction check out the blue 38 Knucklehead? If so how’s it look?

  10. #40
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    Sep 2009
    Missouri City, Texas

    Re: 2020 Vegas auctions

    Greenie strikes again! This fantastic, original Hollywood Green Harley-Davidson is perhaps the most discussed Knucklehead of all time, as it has changed Knucklehead history not once, but twice. First, it turned heads when it sold for more than any Knucklehead in history, as many thought it was an incorrect or customized machine. But the new owner knew better, having meticulously researched sales records, invoices and Harley-Davidson's own files to discover the truth: this is a totally original machine, as delivered new from the factory.

    In 1971, Harley-Davidson dealer Wayne “Pappy” Pierce allowed this bike to be traded in on a new Sportster at his dealership in DeKalb, Illinois. At the time, the going price of a used Knucklehead was far less than a new XL Sportster, which was a lopsided trade-in for a canny old dealer. What did Pappy know that nobody else remembered about prewar Harley-Davidsons?

    When Pappy died, it was sold at auction to the current owner for a record-setting price, a record that was broken that very weekend when two other prewar ELs were sold for even more; the fever for prewar Knuckleheads was spreading.

    The current owner of Greenie then searched for 1.5 years to find the original invoices and documentation that proved this 1940 EL is in fact an original machine, ordered from the factory with green paint and nickel plating instead of chrome, as well as many extra details. By proving it was an original machine, the owner and this bike changed the conversation around what is a “correct” restoration of a prewar Harley-Davidson, as the AMCA had previously insisted machines needed to be restored as-per-catalogue to be correct.

    It has now been proven that Harley-Davidson offered custom motorcycles from 1926 onwards, using DuPont paints as color options. Through further research, the owner has proven that such customization was the norm until 1942, and that a “catalogue standard” motorcycle was the exception rather than the rule.

    After World War II, such customizing did not start up again until 1948, because of postwar materials shortages, and stapled-on notes from period factory literature note that items like chrome exhausts were no longer available from 1941 on. Even the original owners of immediate postwar Harley-Davidsons could not explain why their original-paint motorcycles had odd features from new, like a mix of one black-painted wheel rim and one chrome, or mismatched fender straps and strange S-shaped brake rods.

    Much of this information was simply forgotten and never written down in factory histories, but a close examination of factory invoices and records reveals the true story. This 1940 Harley-Davidson EL Knucklehead is a factory original motorcycle on which an amazing amount of time has been lavished in documenting its history. In the process, the story of the Harley-Davidson factory and the rules for judging prewar Harley-Davidsons have changed, making this machine a landmark of motorcycle scholarship. As Greenie's current owner has said, “This bike has changed Knucklehead history twice—and I expect it will make history once again.”


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